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- Hi Everyone!
-
- An important game was played on IGS on Sunday afternoon; it was the 1993
- USA Youth Championship Tournament final match between John Lee from Chicago
- and James Chien from San Francisco. The winner will represent the US to
- play in the World Youth Championship Tournament held in August in Ottawa,
- Canada.
-
- At the end, John Lee (played as "jjsL" on that afternoon) defeated James
- Chien (as "liubei") and thus became the Youth Champion of USA in 1993.
- Congratulations John!
-
- I am not authorized to show this game and announce the above news; instead,
- I do it volunteerly as an IGSer. :-) "Permission to reproduce this game is
- given, provided proper credit is given." So thanks Tim! :-)
-
- When the game started, almost no one on IGS noticed it, since there was
- supposedly a "bigger" game going on. But an IGSer "zhuge" saw this
- "liubei" and became very interested (Consult your Chinese friends to find
- out the relationship between the *real* Zhuge and *real* Liu Bei :-).
- Zhuge's subsequent conversation with "tweet" ended up with a surprise
- discovery, that this game between jjsL and liubei was a special tournament
- match.
-
- Moments later, tweet revealed the arrival of Jiang Joju 9p on IGS. Only
- then people started to gather to watch and kibitz in this game. Still, at
- the time, people were unware of the importance of the game, and all they
- knew was that a professional 9p was watching this game. As a result, the
- game was another "normal" game on IGS, judging from the kibitzes -- some
- comments on the game, and some irrelevant chatting (but they're always fun,
- aren't they :-). However, the game records does include a couple of
- comments from Jiang 9p, and one of the strongest US amateur players, Jing
- Yang, ("jy23" on IGS), actually made his "kibitzing debut" in the game. :-)
-
- Right after the game, tweet announced the result and that winner was to
- represent US in the World Youth Championships. The two players then
- actually started to replay the game, adding their comments to the
- kibitzing. Unfortunately, near the end, James Chien felt tired and did not
- want to continue the replay (understandable), and they adjourned the game.
- And they left. But wait! The replay version wouldn't be available unless
- they *finished* (not leaving it adjourned) the game, right? What a pity.
-
- I happened watched most of the replay and barely remembered a few comments
- by lyu 7d. I editted the game record to add those comments in.
-
- And here is the game record. Enjoy.
-
- Kind regards,
- Jim Z Yu
-
- P.S. I am quite confident that I had the correct information. If there are
- any mistakes, however, please correct me. Thanks.
-
- P.P.S. Also, my goal of this post it to tell the story rather than the game
- itself. It *was* the final, but it didn't necessarily represent the
- highest level of US youth. :-) As far as I understand, B didn't play too
- well in the game.
-
- Congratulations to John Lee once more, and good luck in the World Youth
- Championship Tournament!
-
- (
- ;
- GaMe[1]
- VieW[]
- SiZe[19]
- PlayerBlack[liubei]
- BlackRank[5d ]
- PlayerWhite[jjsL]
- WhiteRank[NR ]
- GameName[\(IGS\) jjsL\(W\) vs liubei]
- EVent[A game played on the Internet Go Server]
- DaTe[1993-05-16]
- PlaCe[IGS: 128.32.201.46 6969]
- REsult[W+Resign]
- GameComment[\( Copyright 1993 Tim L. Casey
- Permission to reproduce this game is given, provided proper credit is given.
- No warrantee, implied or explicit, is understood.
- Use of this game is an understanding of the Copyright.]
- USer[Brought to you by the IGS program]
- KoMi[5.5]
- Comment[1993 USA Youth Championship
-
- Final Match
-
- White: John Lee, Chicago
- Black: James Chien, S.F.
-
- Place: Internet Go Server
- Date : May 16, 1993
-
- Weather: Who cares? :-\)]
- ;
- Black[dd]
- ;
- White[pp]
- ;
- Black[cp]
- ;
- White[pc]
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- Black[pe]
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- White[ep]
- ;
- Black[gq]
- ;
- White[fo]
- ;
- Black[go]
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- White[gn]
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- Black[gp]
- ;
- White[fm]
- ;
- Black[eq]
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- White[qg]
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- Black[qc]
- ;
- White[qd]
- ;
- Black[pd]
- ;
- White[qe]
- ;
- Black[qf]
- ;
- White[rf]
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- Black[pf]
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- White[oc]
- ;
- Black[rg]
- ;
- White[re]
- ;
- Black[qh]
- ;
- White[rc]
- ;
- Comment[ lyu 7d* : B should Q13 to capture.]
- Black[qn]
- ;
- Comment[ lyu 7d* : the biggest point is at upper left.]
- White[np]
- ;
- Comment[ sweat 7d* : L3 is weird.
- lyu 7d* : L3 is too narrow, over-concentrated.]
- Black[kq]
- ;
- White[qo]
- ;
- Black[pn]
- ;
- Comment[ lyu 7d* : Q9 overplay.]
- White[pk]
- ;
- Black[oi]
- ;
- White[nk]
- ;
- Black[nn]
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- White[lp]
- ;
- Black[kp]
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- White[lo]
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- Black[ol]
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- White[ok]
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- Black[lm]
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- White[lk]
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- Black[jm]
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- White[mm]
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- Black[ml]
- ;
- White[pi]
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- Black[ph]
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- White[mn]
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- Black[nl]
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- White[ll]
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- Black[mk]
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- White[mj]
- ;
- Black[lj]
- ;
- White[km]
- ;
- Black[nj]
- ;
- Comment[
- zhuge NR : liubei!! he was my boss 1800 years ago :-\)
- zhuge NR : hi jujo ;-\)]
- White[mi]
- ;
- Black[qi]
- ;
- Comment[
- zhuge NR : sure, liubei's game ought to be important :-\)]
- White[pl]
- ;
- Comment[
- zhuge NR : tweet's shout is much more powerful.]
- Black[on]
- ;
- White[rm]
- ;
- Black[rn]
- ;
- Comment[
- tweet NR : roc is using jy23's account
- zhuge NR : huh?
- zhuge NR : is roc at jy23's place?]
- White[rk]
- ;
- Comment[
- tweet NR : yes]
- Black[rp]
- ;
- White[ro]
- ;
- Comment[
- zhuge NR : i see.]
- Black[so]
- ;
- Comment[
- jjs 4d : hi, wahts up here??
- tweet NR : big game jjs
- zhuge NR : jjs watching jjsL.
- jjs 4d : wow, good
- tweet NR : roc = jiang 9p
- zhuge NR : and zhuge watching liubei :-\)
- jjs 4d : roc?]
- White[qq]
- ;
- Black[rj]
- ;
- Comment[
- jjs 4d : who is my Left?]
- White[nm]
- ;
- Black[om]
- ;
- Comment[
- jansteen 4d*: Are we allowed to ask questions tweet?
- zhuge NR : so they're in Ohio, tweet?
- zhuge NR : no, jan.
- tweet NR : yes zhuge
- tweet NR : i guess so jan
- zhuge NR : although you've asked one too many :-\)
- jjs 4d : gs is in Ohio too?
- jansteen 4d*: Ooops :-\)
- zhuge NR : is this the battle of the game? so early.
- jjs 4d : wow, black dead, haha]
- White[sm]
- ;
- Comment[
- bhuang 2d : Goed dag, jansteen
- jansteen 4d*: How do you evaluate the joseki in the upper-right Mr. Jiang?
- jansteen 4d*: Hello bhuang :-\)
- jjs 4d : oh, i c, J 9p is here
- zhuge NR : but he might not know how to kibitz yet...
- jansteen 4d*: Does blacks thickness equal white's territory?
- bhuang 2d : alles goed met jou?
- jjs 4d : go agead tell him, zhuge
- tweet NR : somebody please help roc to understand kitibz
- tweet NR : roc is trying to make kibitzes.
- jjs 4d : is he in Berkeley?
- tweet NR : *roc*: we did not see the whole sequence, but in terms of shape, white is better
- tweet NR : *roc*: r11 was not good.
- zhuge NR : no, he is in Ohio
- zhuge NR : *roc*: tweet is better than zhuge.
- zhuge NR : sorry i made that up. :-\)]
- Black[sn]
- ;
- Comment[
- qzheng 3d : s3?]
- White[qm]
- ;
- Comment[
- jjs 4d : y so quiet?
- qzheng 3d : a pro is here
- jjs 4d : i got a fan you give us, jan, thank u.]
- Black[ni]
- ;
- Comment[
- tweet NR : jansteen gave me small shoes that do not fit. :-\)
- jjs 4d : oh, yeah, give me too. haha
- jansteen 4d*: Sorry tweet, we didn't knew your size :-\)
- zhuge NR : hahahha..
- jjs 4d : i put them in my car
- tweet NR : *roc*: help. How can we see the whole sequence.
- aladdin 5d*: bbbb dead??
- BugsBunny 4d*: you can save the game with igs menu,
- jjs 4d : what, aladdin?
- BugsBunny 4d*: then review with xgoban
- aladdin 5d*: b dead
- jjs 4d : u can do refresh
- zhuge NR : that's too fast jjs :-\)
- qzheng 3d : is roc using client?
- tweet NR : ask roc please.
- aladdin 5d*: i did refresh, but b still dead :\(]
- White[po]
- ;
- Black[kl]
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- Comment[
- yj 1d*: b alive]
- White[ln]
- ;
- Black[kk]
- ;
- Comment[
- yj 1d*: m12
- tweet NR : roc tell everyone thankyou we have to go.
- tweet NR : *roc*: thank-you we have to go now.
- jjs 4d : th~nk u roc too
- tweet NR : *roc*: the game is too good for White right now.
- jansteen 4d*: Thank you Mr. Jiang for your visit!]
- White[lm]
- ;
- Comment[
- jjs 4d : zhuge, y dont u help liubei now?
- zhuge NR : yes indeed. thanks Mr Jiang.]
- Black[kh]
- ;
- Comment[
- BugsBunny 4d*: I think zhuge's moves will not help liubei :\)
- yj 1d*: I thk m12 better
- zhuge NR : liubei is playing black???!!! damn! i've been helping White!]
- White[mh]
- ;
- Comment[
- zhuge NR : :-\)]
- Black[lg]
- ;
- Comment[
- tweet NR : roc is with his old buddy Jing Yang \(jy23\) :-\)]
- White[mg]
- ;
- Comment[
- jansteen 4d*: Strong team!
- jjs 4d : wow, arte they playing on igs ?
- zhuge NR : here comes jy23.
- tweet NR : he is going to visit jansteen. :\)]
- Black[mf]
- ;
- Comment[
- jansteen 4d*: Happy, happy, happy!!
- zhuge NR : wow... he's going to Amsterdam?
- tweet NR : jy23 is here now.]
- White[nf]
- ;
- Comment[
- jansteen 4d*: Teaching us Go!
- jjs 4d : hi, jy23
- aladdin 5d*: bbbb dead
- tweet NR : jansteen was kind enough to invite jujo to Holland. :\)]
- Black[me]
- ;
- Comment[
- BugsBunny 4d*: isn't l10 only move?]
- White[ki]
- ;
- Comment[
- zhuge NR : sometimes stronger the Go player, "weaker" a computer user he/she is, why is that? ;-\)
- BugsBunny 4d*: can't white capture 1 side or the other if l10?]
- Black[ji]
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- White[kj]
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- Black[jj]
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- White[li]
- ;
- Comment[
- jjs 4d : since everybady is equal under the sky
- tweet NR : which sky?
- yj 1d*: everybaby?
- jjs 4d : zhuge's sky
- zhuge NR : :-\)
- jjs 4d : everybody
- zhuge NR : w's lower right is 50+ points.]
- Black[qk]
- ;
- Comment[
- jansteen 4d*: naked we are born, and naked we'll leave
- BugsBunny 4d*: not me! I'm dying with my clohtes on
- zhuge NR : hahahahaa...
- pig 25k : hihihihihii...
- yj 1d*: s8?]
- White[pj]
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- Comment[
- zhuge NR : your fur, to be exact.]
- Black[og]
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- White[qj]
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- Black[sk]
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- Comment[
- yj 1d*: b clap
- jjs 4d : myLeft is really strong, right, zhuge?]
- White[ql]
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- Black[sl]
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- White[ri]
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- Black[si]
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- Comment[
- BugsBunny 4d*: if white winss ko, black gorup may be in danger
- jjs 4d : you know, I am left-handed
- zhuge NR : yes, jjs. while my boss is not doing well today.
- zhuge NR : no ko threat.
- pig 25k : i am right-handed
- yj 1d*: no ko important than this
- BugsBunny 4d*: if white takes at 512, doesn't o15 kill gorup?
- jjs 4d : the only occation i use my right hand is writting
- BugsBunny 4d*: what tournament is htis game for?
- jansteen 4d*: IGS 94 maybe?
- zhuge NR : no idea.
- jansteen 4d*: Oh no, we didn't play IGS 93 yet!
- jjs 4d : three kingdom T
- pig 25k : why so many prople obsrve this game?
- tweet NR : national tournament for youth players.
- jansteen 4d*: Who will organise the tournament this year guys?
- jjs 4d : jan will do right?
- BugsBunny 4d*: are there ANY ko threats for blac?
- jansteen 4d*: Sorry, would love to but no time jjs :-\(
- zhuge NR : ask UFO too.
- pig 25k : what is the rank jjsL?
- jansteen 4d*: I asked but he prefers not
- zhuge NR : i see. :-\(
- jjs 4d : so zhuge's turn
- zhuge NR : that was my plan; but i wouldn't be here this summer. Sorry.]
- White[sj]
- ;
- Comment[
- pig 25k : i would be here this summer.]
- Black[ne]
- ;
- White[sg]
- ;
- Comment[
- pig 25k : why there?
- jansteen 4d*: Expecting some territiroy in the upper-left section
- BugsBunny 4d*: can't play a slow move now
- BugsBunny 4d*: hard for black to catch up
- tweet NR : jy23 will try to kibitz]
- Black[el]
- ;
- Comment[
- tweet NR : he is asking how to kibitz
- jy23 7d : this is a test
- zhuge NR : test is good!!
- BugsBunny 4d*: good!
- jansteen 4d*: The test worked jy23
- zhuge NR : this is not a test.
- jansteen 4d*: Hahaha :-\)
- pig 25k : the test not work.........joke]
- White[dp]
- ;
- Black[co]
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- Comment[
- jy23 7d : i just know how to do this]
- White[dq]
- ;
- Comment[
- jy23 7d : thanks
- zhuge NR : great!
- kob 6d : why so many people interesting in this game?
- zhuge NR : why not?]
- Black[en]
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- White[em]
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- Comment[
- jjs 4d : since tweet is here, kob
- jansteen 4d*: Important games are fascinating to watch kob
- zhuge NR : see, jjs and jan are here too.
- jansteen 4d*: i can feel the tensions
- jjs 4d : even 7d game is not attractive right now
- pig 25k : sorry, who is tweet?
- jansteen 4d*: And the King of Kibitzers as well!]
- Black[eo]
- ;
- Comment[
- tweet NR : i am tweet.
- kob 6d : thx tweet, jjs, zhuge ...
- jansteen 4d*: Hahaha :-\)
- pig 25k : Hihihi
- BugsBunny 4d*: any comment, jy23?
- tweet NR : jy23 says maybe jiang will be back Tuesday.
- zhuge NR : Tuesday night?]
- White[cq]
- ;
- Comment[
- tweet NR : i did not ask the time.
- zhuge NR : back to Ohio or California or IGS?
- jy23 7d : i don't know well about this game]
- Black[cm]
- ;
- White[fp]
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- Black[fn]
- ;
- Comment[
- jjs 4d : wow, white was cut
- zhuge NR : lyu is here.
- BugsBunny 4d*: amateur would never give up 3 stones
- jansteen 4d*: White's most difficult problem will just be to win
- BugsBunny 4d*: they are too precious
- BugsBunny 4d*: but white has k6
- jansteen 4d*: Winning a won game is difficult]
- White[fq]
- ;
- Comment[
- zhuge NR : right jan!]
- Black[gm]
- ;
- Comment[
- jansteen 4d*: Thanks zhuge, you tend to relax when in better posotion
- jansteen 4d*: Concentration slips and voila!
- zhuge NR : me? yeah i've been like that for 1800 years. :-\(
- jjs 4d : i guess zhuge relax when the city is empty]
- White[hn]
- ;
- Comment[
- jy23 7d : i think b still have chance
- BugsBunny 4d*: seems to me that e8 worked rather well
- pig 25k : now is 3:36 am. here!
- jansteen 4d*: Enter at c14 now?
- zhuge NR : early! you got up so early!
- zhuge NR : :-\)
- pig 25k : i have no sleep!
- zhuge NR : oh.
- jjs 4d : k6?
- BugsBunny 4d*: how much of upper side was white have to destroy?
- pig 25k : what time there?
- tweet NR : jjsL must be a relative of jjs
- jjs 4d : my Left hand is playing
- zhuge NR : w has 50+ at lower right. 15 at upper right. 10 at lower left?]
- Black[hm]
- ;
- Comment[
- jjs 4d : though i dont know where is he right now yet]
- White[dm]
- ;
- Comment[
- tweet NR : USA
- pig 25k : USA?
- BugsBunny 4d*: k6?
- jjs 4d : zip code?
- tweet NR : yes.
- jjs 4d : '61801?
- pig 25k : what is USA?]
- Black[cn]
- ;
- Comment[
- BugsBunny 4d*: good guess jansteen
- zhuge NR : where are you, pig?
- pig 25k : tokyo!
- zhuge NR : USA wa amerika desu.
- jjs 4d : where is tokyo?]
- White[cf]
- ;
- Comment[
- pig 25k : JAPAN!
- jjs 4d : what is JAPAN?]
- Black[bd]
- ;
- Comment[
- tweet NR : a country in asia, not far from China.
- jjs 4d : i c
- BugsBunny 4d*: I am wondering: would c12 have been better than b16?
- BugsBunny 4d*: seems to me that if white jumped into corner
- pig 25k : sorry, all of you are in USA now?]
- White[cj]
- ;
- Black[ch]
- ;
- Comment[
- BugsBunny 4d*: that middle territory would be huge
- zhuge NR : some of us, pig.
- silly NR : I am not]
- White[bh]
- ;
- Black[dh]
- ;
- White[bg]
- ;
- Comment[
- zhuge NR : pig-san, nihonjin desuka?]
- Black[bk]
- ;
- White[bj]
- ;
- Black[ej]
- ;
- White[ck]
- ;
- Comment[
- pig 25k : i am a HK.
- zhuge NR : i see.]
- Black[bl]
- ;
- Comment[
- BugsBunny 4d*: why are there so few japanese on the net?]
- White[ef]
- ;
- Comment[
- zhuge NR : good question!
- jansteen 4d*: They are shy ?!
- pig 25k : they don't know IGS!!!
- zhuge NR : i am wondering too.
- BugsBunny 4d*: I see more chinese or korean players from japan, than japanese players
- tweet NR : no time.
- jjs 4d : they have better servers?
- tweet NR : they work too much.
- jansteen 4d*: Ah, right tweet
- jones 3k : hardly anyone in japan plays go?
- BugsBunny 4d*: not like us :
- tweet NR : i asked one time, and they told me no time. :-\)]
- Black[fe]
- ;
- Comment[
- BugsBunny 4d*: is this sente against left group?
- jjs 4d : they r hardworking players
- BugsBunny 4d*: does black have to play b3 now?
- jjs 4d : i guess yes BB]
- White[dl]
- ;
- Comment[
- BugsBunny 4d*: I guess black disagrees :\)]
- Black[ek]
- ;
- Comment[
- jansteen 4d*: Black feels his attack is the last chance
- jones 3k : b still has j6, no?
- BugsBunny 4d*: good point, jones !
- BugsBunny 4d*: forgot al about that]
- White[eh]
- ;
- Comment[
- jjs 4d : black c6 group dead?
- jjs 4d : hi, lyu, and comments?
- lyu 7d*: busy talking
- tweet NR : to me. :-\)]
- Black[dg]
- ;
- Comment[
- jy23 7d : b really lose now
- jy23 7d : bye
- tweet NR : bye
- jjs 4d : bye
- zhuge NR : bye jy23!
- BugsBunny 4d*: bye]
- White[ce]
- ;
- Black[cd]
- ;
- White[ee]
- ;
- Black[ed]
- ;
- Comment[
- jak NR : who will soon resign?
- lyu 7d*: b
- zhuge NR : b
- rad 6k : black
- jjs 4d : b4 killes b]
- White[di]
- ;
- Comment[W wins by resignation.
-
- Congratulations, John!]
- )
-